Software Piracy

[Farshid7777777]

I just have a simple question:
Does anybody pay for software as long as a crack or keygen or ...
is available on the web?
In other words, are we living in a world full of thieves?
Thanks for your answers in advance.

[snowmonkey]

Originally Posted by Farshid7777777

I just have a simple question:
Does anybody pay for software as long as a crack or keygen or ...
is available on the web?
In other words, are we living in a world full of thieves?
Thanks for your answers in advance.

Take a look at this report then YOU judge it for yourself.
http://www.hotlib.com/articles/show....lobal_Increase

I'm very surprised that "Iran" is not on that list !! [wink] [wink]

Cheers

[xcrunner503]

ill be honest with everyone... I have never, ever, ever paid for software. Ever. I used to borrow cd's from my friends, but during the summer i found out where to get illegal downloads of software and have been doing it alot ever since. I will not say where you get them, because i think some mods here might get mad at me and dont bother PM'ing me about it, unless u have helped me with a computer problem b4... cuz illegal downloading is wrong and illegal

[sourcez]

Well isn't that a home truth :P

I have to admit that I do borrow games off of friends, but tend to buy most software because I get a much nocer feeling when I know my laptop doesn't have any hacks, patches or extra software running on it purely to make another bit of software work.

Then again, i'm not saying i've never done it...

Back to the old arguament, why not lower software prices - look at the Retail price of Microsoft Office 2003 Pro - the reason MORE people are pirating is because it is outragously priced - they would get more sales at a lower price (at this point i add my copy of Office came with the laptop).

So, i ask...is making HUGE AMOUNTS of profit all these software companies aim for?

[xequence]

Piracy Rocks.

I have never paid for software and I dont intend to. (Windows 2000, XP, Unreal Tournament, Quake III Arena, Visual Studio Enterprise, MS Office 2003, Paint Shop Pro 7, SoundForge 8, and tons of other little programs I use cracks on) If I couldent pirate it id be using only Linux right now.

Seriously, piracy is the only thing keeping thousands and maybe millions of people using windows. (Not all windows users, but many people who use windows wouldent if they didnt pirate it. As for pirating windows, my computer came with windows ME which was horrible. I think of it as taking a defective product back and getting a new one only microsoft didnt have to do any customer service).

And the thought that every pirated software is one lost sale is flawed. Someone downloads Windows 2000 Datacenter server. The accual cost is 15000$. I doubt even 1/1000 people would accualy buy that.

And on windows every little 500kb program costs 30$. Thats where crack sites come in. Without them if you bought all the programs (which you wouldent, you would just go without them) it would cost hundreds of dollars. Think - A CD burner (Alchohol 120%) is 55$ and an icon creator (Easy icon maker) is 30$ put together costs 85$. Thats crazy.

[ewanog]

I'll agree with you people that everything is outrageously over priced, but just think.

If you were a software programmer, and worked on something for about 2 or 3 years, and then had someone rip it off without a second thought; and thus stealing all your hard work... wouldnt you feel a bit angry?

[42penguins]

Originally Posted by ewanog

I'll agree with you people that everything is outrageously over priced, but just think.

If you were a software programmer, and worked on something for about 2 or 3 years, and then had someone rip it off without a second thought; and thus stealing all your hard work... wouldnt you feel a bit angry?

I'm not sure I would. Take Microsoft, for example. You could probably say that their products are the most pirated, but they still turn amazing profits from the people and companies who DO pay for things.
What I'm saying is, as long as I still got paid, I wouldn't be angry. I would be happy people like my stuff enough to "steal" it

[Cache]

Originally Posted by 42penguins

I'm not sure I would. Take Microsoft, for example. You could probably say that their products are the most pirated, but they still turn amazing profits from the people and companies who DO pay for things.
What I'm saying is, as long as I still got paid, I wouldn't be angry. I would be happy people like my stuff enough to "steal" it

Not all companies are as huge a MS though, and they don't all make corporate style software. No doubt if you were a MS programmer you wouldn't give a rats a$$ how many people downloaded your program illegally, it would have very little effect on your company (MS) and your job would still be safe. For smaller software vendors though, I imagen it would be another story altogether.

I take it you have never tried to code a program? it's not easy! There is no wonder the prices are so high. Now of coures companies will also be factoring in the money they estimate to loose due to piracy too.

[F A B Scott]

I paid for a year of Panda AV once.
Nowadays I get most stuff I want legally and free. There is a very great deal of free stuff available and if you feel like donating you can normally do so. Whatever you can afford.
Mostly it seems to be the gaming software that has to be paid for [or obtained in other ways]

[xequence]

Piracy isnt stealing.

Stealing is when you take something from someone, and in the end they loose something and you gain it. (Example: You steal someones car. In the end you have gained and they have lost). In piracy you copy something from someone elses hard drive, or a server. (Example: P2P or an FTP server). In the end they have the software on their computer and so do you.

[F A B Scott]

You are right...morally,and I agree but software is classed in law as intellectual property which CAN be stolen.
So, technically it is stealing.

[xequence]

Originally Posted by F A B Scott

You are right...morally,and I agree but software is classed in law as intellectual property which CAN be stolen.
So, technically it is stealing.

I guess it all depends on your opinion of stealing.

If not paying for something you are supposed to pay for is stealing to you, then yes, piracy is stealing. If my version of stealing is stealing to you, then no, it isnt stealing do pirate software.

[dresnoop60]

i pirate shit

[F A B Scott]

Originally Posted by dresnoop60

i pirate shit

Very interesting, I'm sure.