Who hates Norton????

DaveC2003 · #1 06-27-2007, 07:40 AM

I think nearly everytime I log onto this site someone has a problem with Norton.

For me personally I hate Norton with a passion, it does nothing but cause hassle and grief.

I wanted to know what your views of Norton are??

fritzi93 · #2 06-27-2007, 10:27 AM

Norton's at the very top of my crapware list. When setting up a friend's computer or doing a full restore from disc, it's the first thing to go. From sad experience, I've used the Norton Uninstall Tool. Otherwise, an install can bugger the comp, which means a do over. Now, this may no longer be true with later versions, I dunno.

So what's bad about it? Bloat. It sets hooks everywhere. It degrades system performance significantly. One could go on...

It seems in every category, there's a program like Norton.

For video, it's Pinnacle stuff, particularly Studio. Hugely bloated, unstable, takes forever to render. Outputs only PCM (maybe they've fixed that in current versions), doesn't even offer MP2, much less AC3. Spend a day doing a project only to lose it all when the prog locks up. Bleh.

Nero's another one. Now, I know lots of folks like it, and the core application, the Burning ROM, is alright. It's all the junk extras that typically get installed that are bad. There's a freeware alternative for every single one of them that is superior, not to mention having a smaller footprint. Did I mention Nero is bloated?

Oh yeah, don't use it for DVD-Video, it's not fully compliant. It fails to set a 32k gap between IFOs and BUPs. One bad sector in the wrong place and there goes the DVD navigation.

Pardon me for straying off-topic.

biggles007 · #3 06-28-2007, 04:31 PM

I hate norton

Jazz · #4 07-27-2007, 05:53 AM

I wouldn't say that I hate Norton, however, I am not partial to them, would not put them on any of my boxes and would not recommend them to clients or friends.

Incidentally, there was a time (a long, long time ago) when their products were extremely efficient and effective.

Miz · #5 07-27-2007, 09:22 AM

Norton is a one-size-fits-all sort of thing. In my experience, if it's a good fit on a system, it does its job. If it's a bad fit, it is nothing but trouble.

I've found fewer problems with it when it comes preinstalled on a new system. For some of my customers who need the sort of hand-holding protection it provides, it works well and they like it.

The problems I've encountered with it are the results of either installing a new version on an old machine, thereby bogging things down to the point where the system is all but unusable; or installing it - or trying to install it - on a system already infested with malware.

On the other hand, very few AV programs do well when a user tries to install one of them on an already infected system

No, I don't use it and I don't recommend it but I have made quite a bit of money fixing problems created by Norton's various applications.

I've also found the new versions of McAfee to create the same problems as Norton.

MR.TEE · #6 08-11-2007, 12:08 PM

I hate Norton too because it my pc is a bit old and it use most of the CPU.

Generator · #7 08-14-2007, 09:55 AM

2 comments about norton apps,,1 BLOATWARE. 2 NORTON TRIES TO FIND PROBLEMS THAT DONT EXSIST.

Lauren-x · #8 08-14-2007, 10:39 AM

Ooohhh
I Hate Norrton With A Passion
You cant do anything without a pop up coming up..

SKULLZ1987 · #9 10-22-2007, 04:52 AM

Most of the problems that I get in the workshop are Virus problems. When I ask them what Anti Virus they have . . . Yes thats right, you guessed it Norton.

I don't know why, I don't know how, but Norton doesn't seem to do it's job PRIMARY job !!!

Why not just use AVG . . . ?!?! A lot easier, A lot better, overall greatness compared to Norton !!!

snooker · #10 10-22-2007, 06:37 AM

Norton was very good only when Peter had it . After he sold it to the C-O thats when it went downhill

jadinolf · #11 11-11-2007, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveC2003

I think nearly everytime I log onto this site someone has a problem with Norton.

For me personally I hate Norton with a passion, it does nothing but cause hassle and grief.

I wanted to know what your views of Norton are??

Noob raises hand.

My hate of Norton is unlike so many people I have seen on the forums.
I had 3 computers at the time and was running NAV 2005 at the time and was constantly getting messages directing me to activate with a button on the message that didn't work or the straw that broke the camel's back "Norton does not have a repair feature. Uninstall and reinstall the program"

The last time I saw that message, I uninstalled the program and when I attempted a reinstall, it told me the I had exceeded the install limit and should provide proof to Symantec that I had purchased it.

At that time, I had 3 sealed OEM copies of NAV2006. The next day I offered them on the Net for $1.00 each with FREE shipping.

I had run NAV for years with minimal problems but the problems with NAV2005 were more than I could stand.

I now run avast!

Disk_Contented · #12 12-16-2007, 05:23 PM

Norton AV corporate edition 9. A rather nice AV app.
I still use version 8 of Ghost. It's superb and nothing can touch it.

In common with other vendors, the rest of the soft is too large. Particularly versions of ghost after 8. This requires 256 megs to boot from the CD. Pretty poor.

snowmonkey · #13 12-17-2007, 04:42 PM

I had NAV corp. edition for long time and now I have changed to NOD32......I don't know why I didn't change sooner, system runs much faster and it reduced my boot time by 25%. Norton ghost is still a nice piece of software but Acronis is quickly catching up, their line up of back up and recovery software is unbelievably simple and easy to use and unlike NAV product they are not resource hungry.

that's my 2¢ worth

Cheers

Disk_Contented · #14 12-18-2007, 01:50 PM

Why so many put system resources before protection, I'll never understand. ???

Depends on the version of NAV you used, 9 was excellent. 10 went oversize. A 25% decrease in boot time from NAV to Nod32 sounds like something was incorrect for the NAV settings.

Hmm. Ghost 8 runs from a floppy, uses mnimal ram, imaged a Sata Drive. Acronis can't, doesn't, wouldn't even recognise SATA.
Before you jump on me about being wrong....

Ghost 8 is from 2003. Acronis version was from 2006.
Try booting acronis CD on an aged sytem :P You won't have the resources to do it. Now which is worst?

snowmonkey · #15 12-18-2007, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disk_Contented

Why so many put system resources before protection, I'll never understand. ???

What is so hard to understand......I used both anti viruses and I think my system and 25 other that I manage run better with NOD32, and no security was compromised because of it. NAV corporate edition does NOT provide anti spyware filter, where are NOD32 does (Small Business Edition) and system runs faster...that's what my users want.

In regards to ghost 8.....I still have couple different bootable disk and CD with Ghost on it.....and I will need them for older system, but have you tried to install Ghost 8.x (full version) on Windows platform? it's a pig....to their defence, I haven't tried latest (12)version yet.

After I, I said that Acronis is catching up....and they have....Acronis offers "Universal restore" and Symantec does not (yet)...that mean you can restore you image in a bare bone system....that is really neat( I tested it with a server and I was amazed that I could bring the server back to live in 30 minutes on different hardware platform).

Also, Supported storage locations by Acronis are:
• Networked Storage Devices (SAN, NAS)
• FTP servers
• CD-R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW
• ZIP®, JAZ® and other removable media
• NEW! Tape Support
• PATA(IDE), SATA, SCSI, NEW! SAS
• IEEE1394 (FireWire)
• USB 1.0/2.0 drives
• PC Card storage devices

I understand the point with older system and that's why I'm not ready to throw the Ghost disk away yet, but now-a-day most systems have half gig ram and that is plenty for Acronis boot cd.

That's my $2 worth

Cheers