Windows XP and beyond

Protocol Droid · #1 11-05-2002, 09:20 PM

At the time of this post, there are 190 threads on this forum outside the windowsXP forum. there are 693 in the XP forum.

It kind of bothers me. I personally found XP to be lacking. I felt it was a step in the wrong direction for both stability and especially user control. I felt like it offered users little, and took away from them too much control of their computers. There is actually very little that a user can do in XP that they cannot do in Win2K. And that little bit is mostly made up of Microsoft products. Its also a very expensive OS, and requires newer hardware. But people flocked to it.

What this says is that MS need not make a better OS. And they certainly don't need to make their OS the way the users want it, rather they can put in all kinds of checks and controls that really only benefit MS and other coporations, and people will still buy it. I guess people really get swept up by XPs marketing. I have noticed that people working in the IT world have generally avoided XP. But they are for the most part, far more informed about the issues that average users.

This really worries me, I don't like what MS has planned down the line. It has been suggested that people will never stand for Palladium, but if marketing can sway people into spending hundreds of dollars for an OS they don't need, perhaps they will buy Longhorn and even worse, Palladium. People really need to be informed about these issues.

I'll post a link to one really good article that everyone should read.

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

Radon3k · #2 11-08-2002, 09:45 AM

Microsoft Blackcomb is said to be the last release of a Microsoft OS for some time. The reason? Blackcomb will have a "Window's Update" system that's different from any other Microsoft OS. The kernel will be able to be updated from online, just like a normal Window's Update. Blackcomb will be an entire .NET OS as well.

The concept of this is a good one, but at this point and time, it's not very reliable. There are way too many security issues at hand, and to add on to that, the .NET system is still fairly new and has issues of it's own that should be worked out before it's integrated into a brand new OS.

Protocol Droid · #3 11-10-2002, 05:39 PM

Yes, MS has been trying to move away from their current licencing policy and push subscription software. They are making it so that software is upgraded automatically, and without the users knowledge. MS wants people to be using the OS that MS want them to. The autoupdate will take away user choice. This was MS will be able to get people using their newer OSes wether they want to or not. But, of course, if they did this, they would no longer make as much money from software sales (only preinstalls), and that why they want to do subscription instead of selling permanent licences. So, I stopped at Win2K. I really don't want to have anything to do with palladium.

smiley · #4 11-22-2002, 05:23 AM

Read the article.

What are we getting ourselves into???

Protocol Droid · #5 11-24-2002, 06:23 PM

Well, its not good. The US DOJ seems that they are not going to do much of anything to prevent MS from doing these kinds of things. They've been let off the hook again. Furthermore, with Senator 'Fritz' Hollings trying to make DRM mandatory in all digital devices, it may become very hard to avoid this, in the USA of course. Governments around the world are flocking to adopt Linux, I just hope that home users do as well. With Intel and AMD both a part of TCPA, who knows about how available computers without 'Fritz' chips will be. There probably will be smaller microchip company's providing processors without them. I will never buy one, even if it means buying a chip from a smaller maker. I just hope word of this gets out even more than it does now, because its really scary, and very real.

tesseract · #6 12-08-2002, 08:10 AM

I hope they don't go all out on subscribing to software.
But it would not surprise me if they did.

ESALADUANE · #7 12-08-2002, 12:45 PM

The day is not far away when you can have your software taken away for letting your subscription fee lapse or for "bad behavior" (ie. software sharing).

My EULA for Windows Media 9 specifically states: "The Software is licensed, not sold".

Disk_Contented · #8 12-22-2002, 07:48 PM

If i'm not mistaken, by accepting the licence agreement of XP, you in effect grant MS access to your system.
Of course you removed this option from your system..... didn't you?

ESALADUANE · #9 12-22-2002, 08:41 PM

aaaaah....sure, ummm...of course

Disk_Contented · #10 12-23-2002, 07:40 PM

Don't believe me? check out the XP antispy utility.. or... check out the users section of computer management

ESALADUANE · #11 12-23-2002, 11:41 PM

I ran across this in another forum:

Microsoft Windows="A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system originally coded for a four bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition."

tesseract · #12 12-24-2002, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ESALADUANE
I ran across this in another forum:

Microsoft Windows="A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system originally coded for a four bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition."

So true. :P