GeForce 4 Ti4200 128MB vs ATI Radeon 9600 or 9800

[IneRtia dRaft]

I've just finishg reading this month PC Gamer Magazine

I read caption about Half Life 2. It says the best way to experience Half Life 2. Would be ATI Radeon 9600 or 9800

Is my GeForce 4 Ti 4200 128MB even CLOSE TO EQUAL with ATI 9600 or 9800???

[MheAd]

Although I do not like ATI cards due their crappy drivers, I still must admit that their perfromance is unbeatable - when you get them working, that is.

As for your card - the difference is so big that any kind of comparing it with ATI cards that you are mentioning, would be only a waste of time. I guess it's pretty near the Radeon 9600 (non PRO), but still it's not the same thing. Sorry, but your Geforce Ti has not enough horse power, and it doesn't support all DX9 features either.

[EvilJaxx]

I dont know...

The Ti are still awesum cards i think the Ti4600 / 4800 will run Half Life to as good as any but you wont get all the special Dx9 features that are going to be in the game to be honest what you will be better doing is buying a nVIDIA GeForce FX5700 Ultra they destroy the 9600 pro and they are very affordable!!

[lewis]

Actually the 5700 Ultra doesn't exactly kick the 9600Pro's ass. There are quite a few reviews at sites like [H]ard|OCP that will attest to this.

The 9600XT and 5700Ultras are within $10-20 of each other.

Heres a taste of one:
In Max Payne 2 the BFG Asylum 5700Ultra did show noticeable improvements over the 5600Ultra. It allowed for a more consistent FPS above 30 compared to its predecessor. However, when compared to its main competition the Radeon 9600XT we find that it was not able to surpass it. Overall the 9600XT provided the best average framerates in this game, but the 5700Ultra was very close, certainly competition for the 9600XT in this game. As for realworld gameplay, we would suggest that you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between the two video cards in a "blind taste test".

In Halo the winner is the Radeon 9600XT with the BFG Asylum 5700Ultra once again bringing up a very close second. The BFG Asylum 5700Ultra did provide a good boost up from the 5600Ultra in this game, but the Radeon 9600XT card is still able to edge out the NVIDIA based card for this game. Seeing that the framerates are marginally acceptable at 1024x768 on both cards, Halo is probably going to be best run at 800x600 and should be fine on either cards.

In Tomb Raider: AOD the best mainstream card to play this game with is definitely the Radeon 9600XT as it does provide a higher consistent framerate. However the BFG Asylum 5700Ultra is a great contender and blows the previous 5600Ultra out of the water. Again we think that you would have a hard time telling the two cards apart when playing a game instead of staring at a graph.

For you UT2K3 fans out there, the 5700Ultra has shaped up to be a fine card to deathmatch with. It is basically a dead ringer for 9600XT performance ingame.

Overall in Flight Sim 2004 the Radeon 9600XT and the BFG Asylum 5700Ultra were running close. They both bottomed out around 25FPS as their lowest framerate. However the Radeon 9600XT did enjoy a more consistent stay over 30FPS than the 5700Ultra did. According to our gameplay evaluation the 5700Ultra is actually providing a slightly more consistent higher performance when AA and AF are enabled in this game. The next criteria to look at is image quality. When it comes to AA image quality the Radeon 9600XT beats the 5700Ultra.


Plus: with the 9600XT or 9800XT you get a full copy of Half-Life 2

[EvilJaxx]

We all know about nVIDIA and there stunt when Microsoft released there Direct X 9.0 confrences that nVIDIA failed to turn up until late in the game... Why... well nVIDIA now have left them selves a little behind in the 9.0 race but the facts are simple really. nVIDIA cards now match the ATi in 9.0 and also destory the ATi cards on 8.1 games and 3Dmark 01SE.

9600XT vs FX5700 ULTRA

3DMark Score
FX5700 ULTRA scores: 14114
9600XT scores: 12902

GT1 - Car Chase (Low) (FX 230.1) (XT 163.9)
GT1 - Car Chase (High) (FX 78.6) (XT 75.3)

GT2 - Dragolithic (Low) (FX 230.6) (XT 212.5)
GT2 - Dragolithic (High) (FX 128.9) (XT 124.9)

GT3 - Lobby (Low) (FX 201.4 (XT 191.3)
GT3 - Lobby (High) (FX 93.7) (XT 92.4)

GT4 - Nature (FX 73.5) (XT 68.6)

These results clearly slow that the FX5700 ULTRA can beat the 5700XT on 3Dmark01SE and lets not forget the FX5800 ULTRA which is another league above the 9600XT and ATi really is being pushed to challenge all the cards as we then have the 5900 256 model and the 5950 model. Also lets also point out the Ti4600 / 4800 could beat the 9600 XT on Direct x 8.1 games too

Lets be honest here ATi and nVIDIA are close as they have always been and the cards are all so good that you probley will be tied to find the best card out there but then what do you do... you go then for the fact of which manufactor works better whos drivers are better..

And we all know ATi are good if you can get them working and there drivers suck big time

nVIDIA on the other hand work a wounder and there driver support is perfect

I go nVIDIA anyday

[EvilJaxx]

All these images are from approved sites right click them and properties and you will get there link if this is not enough to make you believe the FX5700 ownz the ATi cards down to the floor..

[IneRtia dRaft]

numbers don't lie

but even though i got the $ to spend on Fx.. i still got 1 issue

what am i going to do about my GeForce 4 Ti 4200??

my sisters computer is old school 500 Mhz with i think 8MB AGP slot.. but now i put a GeForce 4 MX... i ain't sure if it is working to the fullest or not... but i doubt her computer could handle GeForce 4 Ti 4200 afraid of it overheat.

anyone interested in buying GeForce 4 Ti 4200?? only 4 months old.. i will include all the games and stuff come along... =)

[lewis]

Thats nice. i still stand by the Ati.

[IneRtia dRaft]

anyone wanna buy geforce 4 ti?? haha 4 months old only!

[khalidissa7]

i bought my ati radeon 9600 pro on the box it said on 2005 ati radeon 9600 pro was the best graphics card at that time on half-life 2 i get 85-fps
on doom 3 i get 41-fps.

also ati said it das 200 million vertices per second
so you would be able to play latest games

and GeForce 4 Ti 4200 only das 10 million vertices per second
or even less.

oh yeah ati said GeForce 4 Ti 4200 has a very very bad fan and heatsink
it has the ati readon 7000ve fan and heatsink while ati radeon 9600 pro has a heatsink and fan as good as the motherboard one

my friend has a GeForce 4 Ti 4200 he tried a game whitch needs directx 10
he got 4 fps in the game and he burned it while i got 32 fps on it with the ati radeon

anyway GeForce 4 Ti 4200 burns very fast and its a low end card if you buy the GeForce 4 Ti 4200 dont use a very high graphic game you will burn it. so i think ati radeon 9600 pro is better to buy