My hard drive is full. How can I free it?

kracker · #1 11-10-2005, 03:57 PM

My c drive is full and I can't even defragment it. I tried to upgrade to windows xp and put it on another partition. It never worked right. I tried deleting it but it still shows up. It said it's on g drive but I can't find g drive.

Thanks

sourcez · #2 11-10-2005, 04:19 PM

how do you mean - do you mean your hdd is full of files? or that it is corrupt?

sorry but need a little more info

kal · #3 11-12-2005, 12:41 PM

could try delpart to wipe out the g partion . and how are you tring to find the g partion might make a difference as to why you cann't see it if your tring to view it using a dos bases os 95 - ME and XP is ntfs. dos cann't read ntfs file system it will never find the g partion. need windows 2000 pro or maybe n.t. 4.0 to view ntfs partions. or a partion program partion magic system commander ect.but delpart a windows utility created by microsoft will delete just about anything. just be careful using it because it can delete your whole hardrive too.and also were you tring to set up it as a dual boot hard drive? because you need to do stuff to set up dual boots

Stalin959 · #4 11-14-2005, 03:18 AM

restart in dos mode, type format c: /s/q , then use install disk to make anew.

kracker · #5 11-16-2005, 06:25 PM

When I try to defragment it, it says there's not enough space. I wanted a duel booting so I could use XP and win 98. Win 98 was already installed and I don't have a cd to it. XP is an upgrade version and it runs sooooo slow.
I have two hard disk drives installed. The old one is C: and the new one is the slave E:. Could I possilblly Switch to the new one as the main? I could use alot of help.
Thank you.

kal · #6 11-16-2005, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kracker

When I try to defragment it, it says there's not enough space. I wanted a duel booting so I could use XP and win 98. Win 98 was already installed and I don't have a cd to it. XP is an upgrade version and it runs sooooo slow.
I have two hard disk drives installed. The old one is C: and the new one is the slave E:. Could I possilblly Switch to the new one as the main? I could use alot of help.
Thank you.

affirmative yes definitely can. I did that once with 98 got a virus, had a spare in there that wasn't powered up yet. switched them around installed a fresh copy of 98 on the unused spare now primary-master drive while the old one wasn't powered installed every virus thing could get my hands on. repowered the old master now slave transfered all the files and stuff I wanted and needed while scaning the whole time took awhile but it worked and was clean then reformatted the old master now spare several times and did a couple of write tests writes zero's and one on the whole drive then one final reformat switched the drives around again installed 2k on it to try dual booting with two hard drives

kracker · #7 11-17-2005, 10:50 AM

How can I get a fresh copy of 98? If I knew where I could try to format the old one and reinstall the new one.
Thank you.

P.S. How can I tell if I got a virus?

kal · #8 11-17-2005, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kracker

How can I get a fresh copy of 98? If I knew where I could try to format the old one and reinstall the new one.
Thank you.

P.S. How can I tell if I got a virus?

P.S. How can I tell if I got a virus? :confused get a virus program like nortons macaffe. on line Avg there are even virus detection services online but some just tell you if theirs a virus and want you to pay to get them removed. thought you had XP I would format that spare hard drive and install the XP os on it. it should configure itself properly . and for 98 don't you have the original 98 install cd .use it to reinstall 98 . or you can try to find one online download it and burn it to cd R .

xequence · #9 11-24-2005, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kal

thought you had XP I would format that spare hard drive and install the XP os on it. it should configure itself properly . and for 98 don't you have the original 98 install cd .use it to reinstall 98 . or you can try to find one online download it and burn it to cd R .

XP is very slow on any computer thats not new. My 700 mhz celeron with 192 MB RAM is super slow in XP.

Unfortunatly 98 is hard to install from my experience. 2000 is much easier.

You could get 98 on a torrent site somewhere, though I have been looking for awhile and havnt found it. Though I stopped when I realised how many programs need 2000 or XP to run.

And to the poster - Use an ubuntu linux install CD to change the partitions around.

kal · #10 11-25-2005, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by xequence

XP is very slow on any computer thats not new. My 700 mhz celeron with 192 MB RAM is super slow in XP.

Unfortunatly 98 is hard to install from my experience. 2000 is much easier.

You could get 98 on a torrent site somewhere, though I have been looking for awhile and havnt found it. Though I stopped when I realised how many programs need 2000 or XP to run.

And to the poster - Use an ubuntu linux install CD to change the partitions around.

98 hard to install gee I've never had a problem installing 98 or 98SE which is the better 98 version.as for 2000 its a good os but easier to install than 98 ha good one. yes most new programs are step up for 2k or XP. but most dos based windows oses are still usefull.mainly the three last ones 98 98SE and ME. and you can generally get 98 or 98SE fairly reasonably priced on ebay legally. and its still out. unless you plan on using a linux distro I wouldn't use it to change a ntfs partion around.

kal · #11 11-25-2005, 01:38 AM

[quote=xequence]XP is very slow on any computer thats not new. My 700 mhz celeron with 192 MB RAM is super slow in XP.

first off for XP your way off on memory ram try a minimum of 512mb most likely your slow problem. your 320mb away from minimum .
I know what microsoft says
PC with 300 megahertz or higher processor clock speed recommended; 233 MHz minimum required (single or dual processor system);* Intel Pentium/Celeron family, or AMD K6/Athlon/Duron family, or compatible processor recommended

• 128 megabytes (MB) of RAM or higher recommended (64 MB minimum supported; may limit performance and some features)

but Listen to what almost every reviewer will say install 512mb minimum if you want descent performance 1 g.b. even better. heck I still use a slot A athlon but I've got 512mb of ram the max for 98 the minimum for XP.but use 2k which I also suggest 512mb ram minimum and both boot fast and perform fast

harry12 · #12 03-31-2006, 06:30 AM

Running slow and can't defrag and having Win XP problems - wow - it seems you haven't been defragging your system enough. Question is what to do now ............it almost sound like your position is impossible but another poster has suggested a fix - get another HDD, install Win98SE and then use the old HDD as slave, to copy your files over...then reformat the old HDD (that will fix fragmentation).
Win98SE is available at local Computer fairs...cheap in original wrapping. I've not had any difficulty installing it, but make sure you have a 3.5" floppy to get your CD drive running and you may need to fix the Bios so it doesn't boot off an empty HDD....boot floppy to install minimum drivers. Usually Win98SE comes with a 3.5" floppy for this purpose but there are web-sites that will create this disc....something like driver.com...maybe. There are about six programs you need to start the PC working, then the CD can be used. Make sure you have the right security code for the CD and gather up any fav prog CD's (eg printer drivers) etc to get back to fully working. Of course you could buy a new 40G HDD (the limit for Win98SE means 120G is OK, that's what I have used)- I am assuming your "full" disc is quite small....although you haven't give much detail.......
Defraggiing should be done every few weeks, or before you install new software - This is especially important if your HDD is small (a few Gig) since Win uses some of the free-space to cache work-in-progress. I have a 2.5G HDD with Win98SE and this can take overnight to defrag - it is getting close to full and has recorded its first "bad sector" .....this is a "warning sign" that it may pack up...... have an alternative available......copy all useful files (letters, pics etc) to CD, or to a slave HDD etc, so you don't lose important stuff. I don't understand why you don't have a Win98SE install CD...but let that pass.........Win98SE will work on 1G HDD's even if you include Word and a few other progs - later versions of Win are really greedy of HDD space and RAM (as others here have suggested)....so there may yet be an issue with your motherboard (ie inability to take more mem), even if RAM is still available....if you want to use XP. Also beware XP doesn't like hardware changes - I don't know how it "knows" but that has always put me off buying it, even if I upgraded my motherboard/mem to acceptable standards.
There is also an issue with Win98SE not working any faster if you increase RAM....it is said there is no point in increasing it above 256M but It's only a rumour......just remember how expensive RAM and HDD's were nearly ten years ago - that's why Win98SE is still "good" today...IMHO.
Regards

kal · #13 03-31-2006, 03:01 PM

gee weekly defrags? I try to do it every couple of months. you know how long it takes to defrag 120 gig WD drive with 98SE way to long to do weekly. even every couple months I take it out and plug it into a old spare machine. start te defrag process and let it rip, then plug in a spare 98SE drive with the correct boot loader called "BOOT" and NTDETECT, NTLDR, NETLOG,off my main 98SE drive to the spare so I can still use my main machine, and have it dual boot correctly.and for thoughs that don't know to dual boot 9X dos based windows 95 - ME, with 2k or XP, the dos version is the main drive - master. 2K-XP are on the slave and they install their boot info onto the master. and control the boot process. that why Kracker still gets the boot info for the old XP version still listed.even if he deletes that old partion its still listed because its still on the boot loader of the dos drive. "BOOT" can be viewed with notepad and edited with it.
"BOOT" looks like this

[boot loader]
timeout=30
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

but you better know what your doing before you do it because you can screw your self if you don't. P/s save the "BOOT" in a folder label it like BOOTS then right click on "BOOT" hit copy, open the folder and the right click and hit paste. so if you mess it up and it doesn't boot up you can go back in safe mode or with a boot disc in safe mode and restore the original "BOOT" so it will work again. trust me I learned it the hard way on dual booting then switching it around then editing the "BOOT" if you don't know what your editing get some help or experienced advise.

and just for kicks you can edit the last line of the "BOOT" and have it say all most anything you want after Windows and it will show up in the boot process

C:\="Microsoft Windows" change to
C:\="Microsoft Windows 98SE" and it lists windows 98SE or
C:\="Microsoft Windows ME" and windows ME is listed or
C:\="Microsoft Windows just gave bill some more money" and you mess with it and see if it shows up

kal · #14 03-31-2006, 03:16 PM

I've sucessfully dual booted NT4.0 with 98SE then added 2k to it.
duel booted 98SE with 2K. duel booted 98SE and ME with XP. Multi booted ME with XP and XP media center just to see what it was like. suppose I could do a major Multi boot with NT4.0, 98SE or ME, 2K, and XP. but to duel boot NT4.0 with a 98-ME fat 32 dos format you need to create a miniumal boot section of at least 210mb minium as a fat 16 format. hmm wonderif that would also work with 98SE and ME use the miniumal boot loader as fat 16 and have the last two windows 9X dos based progs dual booted together. darn need a few more drive to play with.also been doing some messing around with some linux versions thoughs new bootable lonux os cd are pretty cool.

kal · #15 03-31-2006, 03:28 PM

And please guys Quit trying to boot 2K or XP with the barest of ram. trust me 512 is the true basic minium for desent performance and boot times. other wise they take forever to boot and are dead slow. took out a 128mb stick out of my NT4.0 98SE 2k Multi booted machine and it had 384mb left and boy was it a DEAD DOG it took forever to boot and performance was incredabily slow took forever just to open a folder on 2k the other oses NT4.0 and 98SE were ok though. so ram does matter on 2K and XP. and just wait for the new vista reviewer are all ready predicting stating 1gb of ram minium 2 gigs even better