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Old 11-26-2004, 09:09 PM
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Question Dead - Windows Explorer & IE

My fiance disabled our virus protection and we caught a variety. I cleared out the viruses and reinstalled WinNT multiple times and each time Windows Explorer and Internet Explorer refuse to work. I've now upgraded to XP
Professional with the same problems. I seem to have some internet access with programs that self-update. I used an IE installer ... didn't work.

How can I reinstall or fix Windows Explorer or Internet Explorer in XP?
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Old 11-27-2004, 03:22 AM
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www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html ..follow this too the letter...but first, grab a 98 boot disk on floppy here..www.bootdisk.com.....you,re gonna Fdisk the Hdd and do a clean install...

Why always with a '98 bootdisk? Why not just use the XP CD, or the XP Bootdiskettes, in the approved fashion?

You can fdisk, partition and format with the XP CD.
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Old 11-27-2004, 07:55 AM
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I belive the XP boot diskettes are updated versions of the ME boot disks which dont have half the features that the 98 boot disks have.

And the only thing i can think of the XP boot cd not being as thorough is formatting and choosing the quick format option.

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Because its just not as thorough...not even close..


would like an explanation on that plz
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Old 11-27-2004, 08:03 AM
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Full format only.

I never use quick format as it is a complete waste of time. A full format is essential for a clean install.
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Old 11-27-2004, 08:17 AM
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Debatable but yea i can see what u mean, cool.

There is still the full format option, was wondering if you was comparing the version on the 98 boot disk and the XP boot cd
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I still dont understand where you are comming from regarding the boot disks and the xp cd itself with regards to formatting.
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Old 11-27-2004, 08:33 AM
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really? i dont notice any difference personally. really intrigued now , u got any evidence on why? if anything i thought it would be slower via a floppy and the floppy is more prone to errors than a cd.

please do tell, really got me thinking on this one
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Old 11-27-2004, 08:43 AM
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I find no evidence to support your claim, but as you said it just your opinion. i personally think its BS and on the conservative side with a touch of paranoia. i can find no reason why the full format option on the xp boot cd would be any less effective than the version on the boot floppy.

Fdisk doesnt support NTFS, super Fdisk does. just thought i would mention.

the only reason i can find for using a floppy over the cd is if your mobo doenst support booting from a cd, if thats the case then yea use the floppy to load in a boot environment and then boot up the cd drive and go from there
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Old 11-27-2004, 08:55 AM
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well if yo have had 15 years worth then kindly share it with us, you must have accumilated some knowlage that can support your claim, really now, come on, inform us all as to why, really if you are so sure of yourself then please do tell

im no grease monkey either, i too have had a fair few years building & repairing, hell i even run my own buissness, and i can find no reason, ive tried both , had to in the cases where the mobo doenst support booting from cd.

why go on the defensive, these things aint national secrets or anything, you dont have to be hush hush about it
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Old 11-27-2004, 09:02 AM
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well great, you can sit there in the knowedge that you are right and everyone esle is wrong. if you are gonna have that attitude why bother even posting on these forums.

this is a help forum, please "help" me by "educating" me in your case, is it really that hard to explain the pro's and cons and have some evidence to back it up.

no good sitting there telling me you are right and i am wrong if you can't tell me why.

please respond
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Old 11-28-2004, 07:17 AM
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I guess the illustrious TRIPLATE is talking out of his ass again.

Tells you how to do things but won't bother to tell you why.

Really wasn't that hard was it to back up your claim, if indeed you have had 15 years expierience you would easily be able to explain.

Guess not...
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Old 11-28-2004, 07:37 AM
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Debatable but I can see what you mean.

There is still the full format option, was wondering if you are comparing the version on the '98 boot disk and the XP boot cd

I only ever FULL format to NTFS for XP Home or Professional. You can't do that with a '98 bootdisk. At least ... I have never tried to.
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Old 11-28-2004, 07:44 AM
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Exactly, fdisk don't support NTFS , and if you are gonna use XP then use NTFS it's quite simple more efficient and safer.

Full format or quick format, matters not for me, if done both countless times. More so full format when doing a clean install from a disk that has been used before, and a quick format for a disk right outta the box. Never had any problems. And I take it as a direct insult to my skills as a tech when you get asses like triplate saying i am doing sloppy work, especially when he doenst back up his claim when asked.


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Old 11-28-2004, 08:30 AM
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Fdisk cannot format, period.
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Old 11-28-2004, 11:02 AM
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aye, typo, i meant to say fdisk doesn't support NTFS, not the version on the 98 boot disk that everyone keeps telling people to use all the time

http://www.compu-docs.com/Fdisk.htm

and thankyou TRIPLATE for your lovely PM, gotta love you really.

I joined this forum to help people, i didn't join it to give them an answer and fail to give an explanation on request. eg http://www.softwaretipsandtricks.com...threadid=14922 and the guy asked me for an explanation in the same manner as i asked you, and you don't see me getting all worked up about it do you.

calling me a pompous bastard i can laugh at since you do have a vocabulary on you to construct such an insult, but a fucking moron, thats where i draw the line.

EDIT: Noted and Edited, My point prooven
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