"Green" screen washout within media player since upgrade to sp2

[erniemink]

I get the green screen within any media player on Windows XP Home during playback of videos or streaming on the web at random points almost all of the time now since I installed Service Pack Two which includes version 9 of the Windows Media Player. I reset my computer and re-installed everything three times. I have no problems when I am running Service Pack 1 or 1a, but then this occurs after the upgrade to Service Pack Two. Is there a fix for it or how do I solve this problem?

Ernie Mink

[erniemink]

I get the green screen within any media player on Windows XP Home during playback of videos or streaming on the web at random points almost all of the time now since I installed Service Pack Two which includes version 9 of the Windows Media Player. I reset my computer and re-installed everything three times. I have no problems when I am running Service Pack 1 or 1a, but then this occurs after the upgrade to Service Pack Two. Is there a fix for it or how do I solve this problem?

Ernie Mink

[Cache]

try uninstalling ur codecs then reinstall them.

[erniemink]

I tried doing that already. I have the Divx codecs which are necessary to play the Divx movies. BUT I noticed this happens with ALL movies or streaming no matter if it is Dovx related or not. Can you expand to me on this problem

[Cache]

i could be rong but it almost certainly sounds like a codec problem. try uninstalling ur codecs again and install nemo codec pack which u can get here: http://nimo.titanesk.com/modules/fre...index.php?id=1
if u dont know much about codecs u should use the lite pack. if anything goes rong or it doesnt help just uninstall it and if anyone else cant help u might think about uninstalling sp2.

[erniemink]

Uninstalling SP2 is not wise with the internet. SP2 has good security features and updates and works with EVERYTHING on my computer just fine accept with the strange playback issue within the media players. Divx is aware of these kinds of things and is working aroung them I am sure. I have contacted them as well. One thing I tell people is installing those codec packs is very risky because some of them are not compatible with Service Pack 2 and can reset the original settings causing conflicts. The most up-to-date codecs are necessary, and sometimes people do things on their computers that can cause bigger problems than the solutions that they needed to begin with. I will look into this though but I do NOT recommend people uninstalling the newest service packs because they are made for a good reason and the security against vicious worms which firewalls alone are not sufficient is very necessary. The service packs will work with the current firewalls from Norton as well which I have and recommend. Of course it will disable the Windows firewall and that is good because you do not want two firewalls running at the same time.

[Cache]

doesnt the divx work around require u to disable some of the security features in sp2 anyway?

[Xanex]

Try removing the 3ivX and XviD codecs, i had similar problems, whereby the media player would take preference of a certain codec to display everything, turns out to be a bad codec

when sp2 works it works great, best on fresh installations, tho there are still conflicts and random bugs with certain programs like norton. but when it goes wrong it can go horribly wrong.

if you have av and firewall, and dont want to risk sp2 then dont. the main features for sp2 are for people who dont have firewalls or who dont want to go out and buy it. since it takes less than 30 seconds to be hijacked on an xp box fresh on the internet.

i also dont remember them issuing any serious updates with sp2 like they did with sp1, there was this one update that was only avail with sp1 and they stopped you using the WU site till u gave in to sp1, i dont know if they still have that restriction

[erniemink]

First of all I appreciate the responses. Very kind. I am an expert at computers but I always listen to other people and I do not have all of the answers and I can always learn new things to issues that maybe you have discovered that I did not and solutions. First of all the Divx workaround did originally tell you to disable DEP, a major and important feature of SP2, and I did nto want to do that. I believe they have updated it so that it works with SP2 fully now as long as you have the newest version of the Divx codec. I will look into other codecs but it looks like I have all the necessary codecs that Windows update and Windows Media Player installs and they render without any problem. I am still getting the green washout which is strange and my friends said they are experiencing the same problem. I do not get this problem with SP1 at all or Windows Media player version 8 that comes with SP1. I know it must be a different problem because when I get the green screen it is with any of the media players I use, mainly RealPlayer and WMP from Microsoft. I am sure Microsoft, Divx and nVidia and ATI are aware of this problem and I Know I am far from the only person experiencing this strange and odd issue. Even when I re-install to the original factory software copty and update to SP1 everything works fine. It is not until I go to SP2 that I have this video/video streaming-"gree screen washout" problem within the video window being used to display whatever is being played video-wise. So if anyone has any other solutions, please let me know. Thank you. Again, I appreciate all of the help. I really do.

[erniemink]

SP2 does have a lot of new security features and they will add more as well. It is different in a big way especially with DEP. It works great except for the video player issues which I know I will eventually get worked out.

[erniemink]

I do not have xvid or 3vix codecs on my computer just so you know. ONly Divx and the codecs that are installed with the service packs and the media players. they work fine with SP1. I know SP2 is necessary and I will get this worked out one way or another.

[erniemink]

This is all of my video codecs installed. I hope this helps:

DMO WMVA WMVideo Advanced Decoder DMO Microsoft Corporation qasf.dll --> wmvadvd.dll
DMO MP4S Mpeg4s Decoder DMO Microsoft Corporation qasf.dll --> mp4sdmod.dll
DMO WMVideo 9 Decoder DMO ** Codec not registered
DMO WMV Screen decoder DMO Microsoft Corporation qasf.dll --> wmsdmod.dll
DMO WMVideo Decoder DMO Microsoft Corporation qasf.dll --> wmvdmod.dll
DMO MP43 Mpeg43 Decoder DMO Microsoft Corporation qasf.dll --> mp43dmod.dll
DMO MPG4 Mpeg4 Decoder DMO Microsoft Corporation qasf.dll --> mpg4dmod.dll
DSH DV Video Encoder qdv.dll
DSH Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter Intel Corporation ir50_32.dll
DSH MJPEG Compressor quartz.dll
DSH DIVX DivX Decoder Filter DivXNetworks, Inc. divxdec.ax
DSH MPEG1 MPEG Video Decoder quartz.dll
DSH WMV1 Windows Media Video Decoder Microsoft Corporation wmvds32.ax
DSH WMV2 Windows Media Video Decoder Microsoft Corporation wmv8ds32.ax
DSH MP4S Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor Microsoft Corporation mp4sds32.ax
DSH MP43 Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor Microsoft Corporation mpg4ds32.ax
DSH DVSD DV Video Decoder qdv.dll
DSH DIVX DivX Decoder Filter DivXNetworks, Inc. divxdec.ax
DSH MSS1 Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor Microsoft Corporation msscds32.ax
DSH IV41 Indeo® video 4.4 Decompression Filter Intel Corporation ir41_32.ax
DSH IV50 Indeo® video 5.10 Decompression Filter Intel Corporation ir50_32.dll
DSH MJPG AVI Draw quartz.dll
DSH Video Port Manager quartz.dll
DSH AVI Decompressor quartz.dll
DSH QTRpza QT Decompressor quartz.dll
DSH MJPG MJPEG Decompressor quartz.dll
DSH MPEG1 CyberLink Video/SP Decoder CyberLink Corp. clvsd.ax
VFW CVID Cinepak Codec by Radius Radius Inc. qcap.dll --> iccvid.dll
VFW DIVX DivX® 5.2.1 Codec DivXNetworks, Inc. qcap.dll --> DivX.dll
VFW I420 Intel 4:2:0 Video V2.50 Microsoft Corporation qcap.dll --> msh263.drv
VFW IV32 Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2 qcap.dll --> ir32_32.dll
VFW IV41 Intel Indeo® Video 4.5 Intel Corporation qcap.dll --> ir41_32.ax
VFW IV50 Indeo® video 5.10 Intel Corporation qcap.dll --> ir50_32.dll
VFW IYUV Intel IYUV codec Microsoft Corporation qcap.dll --> iyuv_32.dll
VFW M261 Microsoft H.261 Video Codec Microsoft Corporation qcap.dll --> msh261.drv
VFW M263 Microsoft H.263 Video Codec Microsoft Corporation qcap.dll --> msh263.drv
VFW MP42 Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V2 Microsoft Corporation qcap.dll --> mpg4c32.dll
VFW MPG4 Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V1 Microsoft Corporation qcap.dll --> mpg4c32.dll
VFW MRLE Microsoft RLE Microsoft Corporation qcap.dll --> msrle32.dll
VFW MSVC Microsoft Video 1 Microsoft Corporation qcap.dll --> msvidc32.dll

[Xanex]

DEP is great, its a major step forward for windows, but its main problem is its a huge system hog, requiring hardware enabled cpu's, other than that its software which is the main problem, mainly due to the shell extensions that are added over the course of installing stuff, winzip for example, causes a crash bug in explorer.exe.

the types of attack that DEP prevents are not widestream if at all. they require INSANE ammounts of knowlege on program dll injection and program thread hooking, phew, DEP is just not worth it atm due to the HUGE downside and major bugs it has atm.

other than that i am missing some of the features in SP2 like the browser object manager and more restrictive activeX controls, they where nice, but the security center bites ass untill you turn it off

on an sp2 download i have found it best to turn DEP off, a decent firewall and AV are all you really need, on clean installs keep it on.

the green screen is a codec problem, incompatabilities. try removing all codecs , and i mean all of them, easy to get them back, and install one at a time, i say XviD first since that causes most problems, forget 3ivX and PiX, then DivX and then the MS mpeg 4, i reccomend the kazza lite codec pack over the nemo one, cos nemo has more codecs and gets confusing, they useually cause a confilct.

sometimes it does matter what player you use, when i had green screen problems, the only player not to have them was the divx player itself, it depends on what display layer it uses, if u open a movie and then open another player you can tell they run on the same display layer when the black background of one is overlapping the playing movie and you can see the movie in the blank area

[erniemink]

I am going to cut and paste words you used and then respond to them:

"DEP is great, its a major step forward for windows, but its main problem is its a huge system hog, requiring hardware enabled cpu's, other than that its software which is the main problem, mainly due to the shell extensions that are added over the course of installing stuff, winzip for example, causes a crash bug in explorer.exe.

the types of attack that DEP prevents are not widestream if at all. they require INSANE ammounts of knowlege on program dll injection and program thread hooking, phew, DEP is just not worth it atm due to the HUGE downside and major bugs it has atm."

I say: Don't you think when Microsoft made the Service Pack Two, they udnerstood that every program made after SP2 was installed has to be able to support it's features? Yes. I do not have a problem with Winzip making any programs crash at all and I do not see where DEP actually causes me any problems andit works as it should not matter how good or not so good you think it is. There is always going to be someone out there that gets their kicks in hacking anything and everything and a company will just keep making more measures to perfect what they have already created. The best Anti-Virus suite with a firewall I have ever used that DOES NOT CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS WITH SP2 or my computer is the new INternet Security 2005 by Norton. I downloaded and tested all the trials of the other programs and they all had bugs that reacted with my computer and SP2. The companies have to support SP2 or they will not be made to be prepared since Microsoft holds all the cards anyways. Most of what you says is busg is not always and usually never the service packs or the oeprating system but the companies making the software to run on and through the operating system and service packs. That is why nothing can ever be 100 percent perfect with as big of an operating system as Windows is. There is always going to be companies that do not get it all right with the software they are supposed to support. That is why we as consumers report it and it gets worked on like Divx worked on a problem and a conflict. That is always the way it is going to be. You say it is a resource hog and yet my computer runs just as fast as it did before I installed SP2 and my broadband connection is just as fast to on downloading and uploading and web searches and refreshes. Uninstalling codecs that Windows has installed is not up front as people would like it to be. Other than the Divx codecs, ALL of the rest were installed by SP2 with Windows Media PLayer 9 and then 10. None of them are downloaded from other sources whatsoever. If you go to Add/Remove programs in the Control Panel, there is no simple uninstall for just the codecs other than the Divx program itself. Also I get the green screen only after the videos are running. I had a movie I watched that it did not do it through the whole movie from movielink.com. It is not always at the same time but it is usually happening with most streaming or movies I download on all media players I play them on. I have my ways but what is the fastest and easiest ways to actually uninstall JUST the codecs without actually uninstalling the media players themselves, which with Windows Media PLayer it only rolls back to version nine with the same problems with the green screen washout? By the way the Divx player also shows the green screen to

[Xanex]

The way to remove codecs belive it or not is via, wait for it, device manager, yes the system tool used to show conflicts with drivers and manually install drivers. If you look under sound video and game controllers, there is a section "video codecs".

when i sad winzip i gave it as an example as a program that typically gives a shell extension to explorer by adding the "add to zip" "add to zip and email" etc extentions. adding the shell extension is the easy simple thing for the programmer, i doubt they got that wrong, controlling them which MS does is the problem, which causes the crash bug. its not only the "other" program makers, yes even sp1 screwed up many programs, but its the lack of testing done by microsoft that keeps me in work.

believe me when i say DEP is a huge system hog, esp on upgraded systems where it trys to protect everything. unlike a clean install where it can single out upon installation of other programs that which it wants to protect and those which it doesn't. anything which is done software over hardware is going to be slower since its the hardware driving a software emulation of hardware. general use/downloading/uploading you will not notice the difference, simply because it only requires a certain ammount of cpu to do these things, and the minimum requirements for doing these things are so low the impact on system resources is tiny. you WILL notice a difference, for now untill every program is updated to work with sp2 correctly, when doing more stressfull things, like image manipulation and games where ram is used like cookies in a school, its eaten.

i have set up identical systems and clean installed xp sp1 and sp2 on each test machine side by side, on average the sp2 machine was 7%-12% slower on all benchmarks i ran and as much as 22% slower on a cloned upgraded machine that was 2 years worth of usage on the hdd, programs etc


Addtional: DMO WMVideo 9 Decoder DMO ** Codec not registered

looks suspect for a MS codec not to be registerd

also how did you get indeo codecs on there, they are not included with the service packs, infact microsoft/indeo removed those codecs from the base install of xp when sp1 came out due to licencing issues, since you said the only codecs you installed was divx and the ones that came with the service packs im puzzled