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Old 05-07-2004, 05:42 PM
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What are my options

OK, here we go...

Yesterday, my PC froze up (it does this from time to time). I pushed the reset button as usual. The computer booted up past the screen that shows bios version (press delete to enter bios setup) to a blinking cursor. I could do nothing. I hit the reset button again, this time it booted to the bios version screen, and no further (press delete did nothing). Reset once more, this time it goes to nothing, blank screen. Off, On, unplug, nothing gets me past a black screen.

Things that were different about that day.

1) I got a window that said Norton Antivirus has encountered a problem and needs to be re-installed. (I get this every so often for no reason and end up unistalling and re-installing... NAV=Worst purcase I have ever made)

2) Trial version of PaintShop Pro 8 expired.

Setup-
Windows XP home (up to date from Microsoft)
Intel Celreon 900 Mhz processor
NVIDIA MX440 Video Card
256MB PC100 RAM
11GB HDD


What are my options here?
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Old 05-07-2004, 05:51 PM
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What are my options

Try hitting F8 on reboot and choose Last Known Good Configuration or here is Microsoft's version of what's happenning

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;314503
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Old 05-07-2004, 05:54 PM
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It won't let me get that far. To get to that point, I have to hit F8 after the bios setup screen and before it gets to windows. I can't even get to the bios setup screen.
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Old 05-07-2004, 05:56 PM
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What are my options

Can you boot to a floppy and verify once at the A prompt that you can still see the C: drive?

Jeff
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Old 05-08-2004, 06:14 AM
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Tried a In-Place Upgrade (Reinstallation) of Windows XP?

Read the following very carefully: -

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade (Reinstallation) of Windows XP
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This article was previously published under Q315341
SUMMARY
This article describes how to perform an in-place upgrade, or reinstallation, of Windows XP. This is also named a repair installation.

When you perform an in-place upgrade of Windows XP, you reinstall Windows to the same folder. You may want to do this if you must repair your installation of Windows XP. This may be necessary for any of the following reasons:
You cannot start Windows XP in Safe Mode. For additional information about how to start your Windows XP-based computer in Safe Mode, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
315222 A Description of the Safe Mode Boot Options in Windows XP

The problem is caused by a recently installed system update (Windows Update, hotfix, Windows XP service pack, or Microsoft Internet Explorer update), and you cannot solve the problem in any other way.
There is a registry problem that cannot be solved by using other tools, such as System Restore.
You must apply default (file and registry) permissions to your Windows XP installation.
You must register Component Object Model (COM) components and Windows File Protection (WFP) files.
You must use Windows Setup program to enumerate Plug and Play devices again, including the hardware abstraction layer (HAL).
To reinstall Windows XP, use the appropriate method in the "More Information" section of this article.
MORE INFORMATION
Note You may want to disconnect from the Internet during the installation. Disconnecting from the Internet during the installation helps protect you from malicious users. You may also want to enable the firewall in Internet Explorer. For more information, see the "Enable or disable Internet Connection Firewall" topic in Windows XP Help.
Before You Perform an In-Place Upgrade
Important:
Before you follow the steps later in this article, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base if your computer came preinstalled with Windows XP:


312369 May Lose Data or Program Settings After Reinstalling Windows XP

If you perform an in-place upgrade of Windows XP, all existing restore points are removed and a new System Checkpoint restore point is created after the in-place upgrade is complete. Do not perform an in-place upgrade if you may have to use System Restore to roll your system back to a previous state.

For additional information, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
301224 System Restore 'Restore Points' Are Missing or Deleted

Backup copies of your registry files (in the %systemroot%\Repair folder) are also replaced after the in-place upgrade is complete. The registry files in the Repair folder are either from the first time you started Windows XP or the last time you used the Backup utility to back up your System State. Copy these registry backups to another location before you perform an in-place upgrade if you may have to use them after the in-place upgrade is complete.
Do not perform a repair or in-place upgrade to repair a component or program that is not currently installed. If you can, use Add or Remove Programs in Control Panel or reinstall the component or program instead of Windows.
If your computer requires a non-Microsoft mass storage device driver or HAL, make sure that you have a copy of the necessary files on a floppy disk before you perform a repair or in-place upgrade.
Do not use a repair or in-place upgrade to try to resolve a problem with a user account, password, or local profile. To determine if the problem is related to a user account, password, or local profile, create another user account (if you can) and log on to that account to see if the problem is resolved.
Do not use a repair or in-place upgrade to resolve a problem with third-party applications, files or registry entries.
Do not use a repair or in-place upgrade if you suspect disk problems.
Do not use a repair or in-place upgrade if you suspect a problem with a non-Microsoft device and the latest device drivers are currently installed for the device.
Method 1: Reinstall Windows XP from Within Windows XP
To reinstall Windows XP from within Windows XP, follow these steps:
Start your computer.
Insert the Windows XP CD in your computer's CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive.
On the Welcome to Microsoft Windows XP page that appears, click Install Windows XP.
On the Welcome to Windows Setup page, click Upgrade (Recommended) in the Installation Type box (if it is not already selected), and then click Next.
On the License Agreement page, click I accept this agreement, and then click Next.
On the Your Product Key page, type the 25-character product key in the appropriate Product key boxes, and then click Next.
On the Get Updated Setup Files page, select the option that you want, and then click Next.
Follow the instructions on the remaining pages of the Windows XP Setup Wizard to reinstall Windows XP.
Method 2: Reinstall Windows XP by Starting Your Computer from the Windows XP CD
To reinstall Windows XP by starting your computer from the Windows XP CD, follow these steps:
Insert the Windows XP CD into your computer's CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive, and then restart your computer. When the "Press any key to boot from CD" message appears on the screen, press a key to start your computer from the Windows XP CD.

NOTE: Your computer must be configured to start from the CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive. For more information about how to configure your computer to start from the CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive, see your computer's documentation or contact your computer manufacturer.
You receive the following message on the Welcome to Setup screen that appears: This portion of the Setup program prepares Microsoft
Windows XP to run on your computer:

To setup Windows XP now, press ENTER.

To repair a Windows XP installation using Recovery Console, press R.

To quit Setup without installing Windows XP, press F3.

Press ENTER to set up Windows XP.


On the Windows XP Licensing Agreement screen, press F8 to agree to the license agreement.
Make sure that your current installation of Windows XP is selected in the box, and then press R to repair Windows XP.
Follow the instructions on the remaining screens to reinstall Windows XP. After you repair Windows XP, you may be required to reactivate your copy of Windows XP.

For additional information, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
310064 HOW TO: Troubleshoot Windows XP Setup Problems When You Upgrade from Windows 98 or Windows Me

After You Perform an In-Place Upgrade
After you perform an in-place upgrade or repair installation, you must reinstall all updates to Windows. To reinstall Windows updates, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com

For additional information about how to troubleshoot specific Windows XP Setup issues, click the article numbers below to view the articles in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
312369 You May Lose Data or Program Settings After Reinstalling, Repairing, or Upgrading Windows XP

312368 Data Loss May Occur After Reinstalling, Repairing, or Upgrading Windows XP

For additional information about Windows XP Setup, click the article numbers below to view the articles in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
286463 Release Notes for Windows XP Setup Contained in the Pro.txt File

306824 Release Notes for Windows XP Setup Contained in the Home.txt File

286647 Windows XP Read1st.txt File Contents

The information in this article applies to:
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Last Reviewed: 4/5/2004 (2.3)
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Old 05-12-2004, 11:29 PM
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sometines the most simple is the best. Have you blown the dust out of your system? An overheating processor is what I would look for first. If you're writing to the hd and it shuts down, I see data problems and bad sectors. Good LUCK
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Old 05-13-2004, 07:22 AM
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My computer is operational now. It was kind of a panic there at first because I have lots of files that could have been lost.

Here is what resolved the problem-----> I did nothing. I don't have an XP disk so I couldn't try boot from disk. I let the computer sit for over 24 hours and tried again.... Nothing, still nothing. Approx. 72 hours after the initial crash I was on my way home to pick up some things before going out to look at some new computers. I hit the power button for kickds and low and behold, the thing started up!

Not sure what happend or why. Since then I haven't had any other problems.

Thanks for the help.

wes
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Old 05-13-2004, 11:55 PM
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maybe you were just working it too hard and it was tired... :>)

Jeff
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:21 AM
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Quote:
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maybe you were just working it too hard and it was tired... :>)

Jeff


Same thing happened to me with an old p2 500...

Something discharging perhapes......static.....emf....bad earth... power surge from power company....weird huh! lol
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Old 02-03-2005, 12:23 AM
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What are my options?

You might think about backing up your valuable material. This happened to me and it turned out to be the hard drive starting to fail, which eventually did and I lost everything.
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Old 02-03-2005, 12:36 AM
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You might think about backing up your valuable material. This happened to me and it turned out to be the hard drive starting to fail, which eventually did and I lost everything.


Sage advice....... I would at least run checkdisk to see if there are any probs with the hdd.

What brand of hdd is it? most manufacturers have a utility to verify hdd integrity.

Do you have S.M.A.R.T. monitoring enabled in the bios? (if your m/board supports it)
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Old 04-03-2005, 03:56 AM
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Surge Protector

Probably a power surge, get a surge protector
(Same thing happened to me twice with my p3 desktop and my p4 desktop, but after i got a surge protector, nothing gone wrong.....yet)
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