Old Windows vs. New Windows

Marmaduke · #1 02-09-2006, 06:52 AM

Hi all. I was wondering. I have a Windows XP disk from the first day when it was released. Sp1 and SP2 were added to it when they became available. Is this Windows just as good as the new Windows XP with SP2 included? I'm building a new computer to replace an old one. So I was wondering if I could use the old Windows XP CD and apply the SP updates or would it be better to buy a brand new CD with SP2 included already??

snooker · #2 02-09-2006, 07:19 AM

Hi .... It sounds like you have an retail windows xp disk without any service pack , If this is correct ? Then all you need to do is slimstreaming your windows xp disk with service pack 2 and then its exactly like the newest version of xp , If you like to know how to slimstream your disk ? Check the website below , One last thing you will need is a burner to do such ...

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...slipstream.asp

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Highett · #3 02-09-2006, 07:30 AM

Marmaduke,

If you have a fast internet connection you would do better to use your current XP CD and down load the service packs and updates, this way they will be all up to date and you will save yourself the expense.

If you have dial up, it will take a while to download the current service packs and all the security updates.

If you cannot download SP2 via Microsoft Update, you can order it on CD from here:

Code:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/default.mspx

Highett

snooker · #4 02-09-2006, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Highett

Marmaduke,
If you have a fast internet connection you would do better to use your current XP CD and down load the service packs and updates, this way they will be all up to date and you will save yourself the expense.

Hi ... Thats not the better way to go , Its best to slimstream your original xp disk with service pack 2

fritzi93 · #5 02-09-2006, 09:48 AM

Another slipstream link. Perhaps easier:

http://www.win4lin.com/component/opt...145/mode,view/

Marmaduke · #6 02-09-2006, 10:04 AM

Thanks everyone, Looks like slipstreaming it is.

Blazeix · #7 02-10-2006, 10:23 PM

oldtimer, its actually more secure to slipstream it than to hook up to a network without any service packs.

Phippy · #8 02-10-2006, 10:32 PM

In answer to your original question, "Windows is Windows". By the time you've downloaded all available updates from the Windows site, you are current. It would be foolish to buy another license if (since) you have an older one.

Blazeix · #9 02-11-2006, 01:05 AM

um... actually, where not talking big $$$ saved. Did you read the links provided for slipstreaming? You download the service packs for free, unzip them, and mount them with your windows xp install cd. This way, the service packs are installed along with the original windows installation. You open your computer up to hackers by just being on a network with an unpatched windows version with no firewall. If you slipstream your cd, you have a patched version with the firewall that came with sp2. Its still completely free, and its much safer.

Nobody here is saying he should buy another cd.

snooker · #10 02-11-2006, 08:02 AM

Also to add I believe microsoft is still providing that anyone can order a service pack 2 disk free of charge , Now I was told that this was going to stop sometime after the first 6 months of the release of service pack 2 but I see that they still have the webpage to request for your free shipping of service pack 2 disk , here below is the link for it and if anyone try it out , will you let me/us know as to whether microsoft is still doing such ....

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...s/default.mspx

snooker · #11 02-11-2006, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by oldtimer

I'm not familiar with the term "Slipstream" or Network pc's.
So i'll bow out of this.

Hi Oldtimer ... Why bow out ? We are all here to learn whenever we can , including myself , The term slipstream basically means to put together your original copy of windows together with service packs , In this case it would be service pack 2 , All you would do is burn your original windows xp copy with service pack 2 onto a disk , This way whenever you might reinstall/reformat your windows you would use your burn copy of XP disk , Once you have finish installing it ? You will have service pack 2 install with it , then all you would need from microsoft update site is the updates that came after service pack 2 , Though to do this you going to need a burner and a blank cd and maybe nero / roxie whichever ... This way its like having the latest windows disk that they are selling in the stores , Take a look at my frist post it has a website all about slipstream or you can google "slipstream xp" .. Again if you have a slow internet connection ? Microsoft is I believe still offering free of charge service pack 2 on disk to be deliver where you live , have a look at my above post , it has the website to get this , I hope this help

PS: I see you are a fellow canadian like myself , If you don't have a burner ? I can always send you a burn copy of xp with service pack 2 on disk , which version do you have ? Home or Pro ? PM me for more about it , If you like

fritzi93 · #12 02-11-2006, 03:42 PM

To clarify: This is not a difficult procedure, it's quite common. The only thing different in the link I provided is that you can do the slipstreaming from a GUI using nLite. (Ignore the references to Linux and Win4Lin, the procedure is unaffected).

Network administrators do this all the time.

How would you like to do a completely unattended install? No entering the serial during the install itself (you gotta have one !!!!, you're just doing all that crap ahead of time on the slipstreamed disc). How about specifying you want to have "Classic" folders, give the computer a name, preset various system settings, etc, etc. You can do that too. All the rigamarole you go through during a clean install can be done ahead of time, on the install disc itself.

I'm surprised nLite isn't more well-known, it works and is free. In fact it holds your hand practically.

I've done a couple slipstreamed discs with nLite, one for 2000ProSP4, another for XPProSP2, and have tested the installs on an extra hard drive to be certain they work.

It needs NET Framework 2.0 to run, so if you have NET 1.0, you gotta update. If you don't have NET at all, get the nLite runtimes and extract to the nLite folder. Be advised you need to get the service pack(s) for network administrators, or the slipstreaming won't work.

Good luck.

snooker · #13 11-03-2006, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Amati

For the absolutely easiest slipstreaming, even easier than nlite or Autostreamer, try Setup Studio. Just download the program here, install it, then in the tools part, select Slisptreamer.
The only thing you need to provide is the original XP cd - or - a copy of this CD's files from some folder on the hardrive. that's all.

The program will download the appropriate service pack for you, if you don't have it, will splisptream it, and then will burn it to a new CD...all with a few clicks..no need for ISO creation, for burning in NERO..for searching the Microsoft msdn site for administrative versions of SP.

Regards A.

Hey bud ... This post is 9 months old and do you actually believe someone is going to download that program from the link you provided ? I can see if you were a regular here some would but I know for myself I wouldn't load whatever you have there , If its legit ? Provide a URL instead